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Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue?

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Feb 21st Streaming

https://youtu.be/tb1NdavWM3s

Greetings Everyone!

It’s been a busy week for us. I hurt my back on Monday evening and was out for a few painful days. I went to the DC on Wednesday and things improved. I’ve been doing lots of rocking and crawling. We’ll be looking at and talking about Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue. I received an email from a beloved member of the body and they wanted to know about a statement they heard concerning “there is no sin issue before God.” In the past 30 plus years preaching and teaching on the in-Christ message, I’ve heard this question more times than I can count. It is a valid question when the law has been our covering and what appears our safety net. The fear that the message of grace will at some point cause some to sin. So are we not to say Christ is more than enough to keep anyone? The liberty in Christ might cause them go out and sin if they know there is no sin issue. Here’s part of the questions we will talk about in fellowship today.

Hi pastor, we bless the Father for you. I am learning so much from the messages you brought. I have 2 questions I need your explanation on.

2 years back, (our Pastor) preached and made a statement like “your sin is not of concern to God if only you have Christ in you, your sin is not an issue to God but the resulting effect of what you do may hinder you from enjoying the victorious Christian life here on earth. eg a child of God living a promiscuous life does not make him less of a child of God but he might contract STDs, or waste his money etc with this he may not enjoy the beautiful life he ought to have (in Christ).”

After service I told him he should not be preaching like that or else he will encourage sin particularly among those who are not matured in Christ. He told me he preaches what the Holy Spirit leads him to not what human logic/thought feels. I felt unhappy because he rejected my advice. What he preached is the truth, but I felt it’s not to be preached to the congregation because the congregation is a mixture of saved and unsaved persons. Among the saved ones, there may be persons who won’t understand this in-depth truth and may misunderstand it to mean “I can continue in sin after all it has nothing to do with my salvation.’’

1. After listening to your message on desensitization to the person of Christ and converted verse begotten, it seems to me it’s okay preaching that way. My question is, is that not going to encourage sin among believers?

2. You said that Biological and spiritual union is permanent. You can’t lose who you are!! We have an older woman expressed the desire to have a new life in Christ Jesus but want to still be praying in the Islamic way. I guess there is nothing wrong if she accepts Christ and continue in her religion. After all it’s about the newness of one but not religion.

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Be My Valentine

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 FEb 14th Streaming

https://youtu.be/c6m66seqSNc

Greetings Everyone!

Happy Valentines Day! What a great time to talk about love and what love looks like. Although the Bible tells us what love look like we still come up short or even empty. As new creation believers we know love is a person. But do we understand that this means love is fixed and unchangeable? Do we not understand that love as a person is not based on how feel at any given time? Or any given circumstance and situation? Many look at Valentines Day as a foundation to secure or acknowledge one’s love for another. In many cases it expected and often demanded! Why? Is the lack of one’s value? Or is it to give someone value? Some might say it is to acknowledge one’s value. But before we talk about it let’s have a little history of Valentine Day. For those of you who enjoy history here we go!

The history of Valentine’s Day–and the story of its patron saint–is shrouded in mystery. We do know that February has long been celebrated as a month of romance, and that St. Valentine’s Day, as we know it today, contains vestiges of both Christian and ancient Roman tradition. But who was Saint Valentine, and how did he become associated with this ancient rite?

The Catholic Church recognizes at least three different saints named Valentine or Valentinus, all of whom were martyred. One legend contends that Valentine was a priest who served during the third century in Rome. When Emperor Claudius II decided that single men made better soldiers than those with wives and families, he outlawed marriage for young men. Valentine, realizing the injustice of the decree, defied Claudius and continued to perform marriages for young lovers in secret. When Valentine’s actions were discovered, Claudius ordered that he be put to death.

Other stories suggest that Valentine may have been killed for attempting to help Christians escape harsh Roman prisons, where they were often beaten and tortured. According to one legend, an imprisoned Valentine actually sent the first “valentine” greeting himself after he fell in love with a young girl–possibly his jailor’s daughter–who visited him during his confinement. Before his death, it is alleged that he wrote her a letter signed “From your Valentine,” an expression that is still in use today. Although the truth behind the Valentine legends is murky, the stories all emphasize his appeal as a sympathetic, heroic and–most importantly–romantic figure. By the Middle Ages, perhaps thanks to this reputation, Valentine would become one of the most popular saints in England and France.

While some believe that Valentine’s Day is celebrated in the middle of February to commemorate the anniversary of Valentine’s death or burial–which probably occurred around A.D. 270–others claim that the Christian church may have decided to place St. Valentine’s feast day in the middle of February in an effort to “Christianize” the pagan celebration of Lupercalia. Celebrated at the ides of February, or February 15, Lupercalia was a fertility festival dedicated to Faunus, the Roman god of agriculture, as well as to the Roman founders Romulus and Remus.

Lupercalia survived the initial rise of Christianity and but was outlawed—as it was deemed “un-Christian”–at the end of the 5th century, when Pope Gelasius declared February 14 St. Valentine’s Day. It was not until much later, however, that the day became definitively associated with love. During the Middle Ages, it was commonly believed in France and England that February 14 was the beginning of birds’ mating season, which added to the idea that the middle of Valentine’s Day should be a day for romance. 

Americans probably began exchanging hand-made valentines in the early 1700s. In the 1840s, Esther A. Howland began selling the first mass-produced valentines in America. Howland, known as the “Mother of the Valentine,” made elaborate creations with real lace, ribbons and colorful pictures known as “scrap.” Today, according to the Greeting Card Association, an estimated 1 billion Valentine’s Day cards are sent each year, making Valentine’s Day the second largest card-sending holiday of the year. (An estimated 2.6 billion cards are sent for Christmas.) Women purchase approximately 85 percent of all valentines.

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Gideon-Faith and Fear

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 FEb 7th Streaming

https://youtu.be/ElBGM71VbC0

Greetings Everyone,
This is the per-recorded message I was going to share with you last week in Sunday Fellowship.  I had some technical difficulties and couldn’t upload it in time. So, here it is for your edification and renewing of the mind!  Enjoy!
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

Desensitization to the person of Christ: The Truth of the Gospel

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Jan 17rd Streaming

https://youtu.be/jYaR_6andLY

Greeting Everyone,
Its been a busy week for us as we prepare for our up coming trip to Ghana. We have had several great times of fellowship this past week on the message “Desensitization to the person of Christ: Thou shalt not steal.”  I’m amazed and a little disappointed at how many professing believers don’t really want the person of Christ.  They have no problem wanting to learn more about Jesus of Nazareth.  But the person of Christ as their only life.  Sounds strange and unimportant.  And sadly very few know or understand the difference between the two.  Please understand the process of desensitization makes everyone delusional to the Father’s purpose, intent, and plan concerning the person of Christ, His Son!  With that said today we will talk about “the truth of the gospel.”
 We ask you to continue to pray for us and with us for our trip and travel to Ghana in the coming weeks.  I ask the same prayer request as the apostle Paul, ” Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints; And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,” Eph 6:18-19.  Some would say because we have the Bible and can read there is “no” mystery.  Really? The fear of not being in control deceives too many of us! Paul again tells us in 1Cor 2: 7-14 that human sense knowledge is unable to know there is a mystery.  The things of God are available to all of His offspring just not to the mind of the flesh!  This is an integral part of “the truth of the gospel”.  Let’s talk about it!
Love In Christ,
David & Katherine

 

Desensitization to the Person of Christ and Racism

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Jan 10th Streaming

https://youtu.be/ETfdCVHdAIY

Greetings Beloved!
We are nine days into our new year of 2016! We trust not too many of you were sucked into the desensitization process of new years resolutions.  As Sons of God we are see-thru-ers and resolutions just don’t fit who we are in-Christ!  Only nine days in the new year and most people are living and existing in the illusion of their old man in the old year.  Remember the process of desensitization to the person of Christ is also the process of sensitization to the person you appear to be in the flesh.  We are bombarded with the illusion that our sex, gender, culture, biological birth, nationality and race is the person we really are.  Please know and understand that our sex (male or female), skin color, intellect, religious beliefs, organizational or/and institutional doctrines are really not issues anymore. None of it or you and me survived the cross! Because the vast majority of humankind have not come to know or understand this liberating truth we have become fearful, deceived, captive and are all out delusional in all of our thinking.  Think about it. God took care of race relations and nationality in Christ at the cross! So what’s the problem?  Simply. You know. Say it with me, desensitization to the person of Christ!  Let’s talk about in Sunday morning fellowship!
Love In Christ,
David & Katherine

Desensitization to the Person of Christ: “Thou shall not Steal”

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Jan 3rd Streaming

https://youtu.be/DhKMaDM3_YM

As many of you might already know we had a devastating series of tornadoes here in north Texas last Saturday evening.  There were several fatalities, loss of homes, personal property and businesses.  With that comes many stories of God’s love, grace, mercy and comfort!  As the body of Christ, the Church which meets as In-Christ Ministries International has partnered with All Nations Fellowship to provide aid and assistance to those affected by the tornadoes. Support included funds for food, personal care items, and medication to name a few.  Katherine and I want to thank all of you who continue to pray for those who were affected by this tragic event and for us as well.  We also want to thank each of you who give in love to this body.  The In-Christ message continues to go forth.  We are scheduled to leave for Ghana in a few weeks.  Your gifts and prayers assist us with the Sunday morning broadcasts, mission trips and anything the Father sets before us! Thank you again!
The message this morning is on desensitization to the person of Christ and the eighth commandment “thou shall not steal.” The Father and I had a great time of fellowship this week (not that we don’t always have great fellowship). I had just finished reading an article on why companies need to tithe. When He begin open the eyes of my understanding. The company’s CEO was being interviewed by a Christian organization. He had some very interesting things to say about corporate tithing.  He did however interchange the words giving and tithing as meaning the same thing.  They are not the same.  God didn’t ask Israel to give the tithe but they were instructed and commanded to pay tithes.  And of course what happens when they didn’t pay.  We read in Malachi;
    ” Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.” Mal 3:8
I’ve heard this verse is used more times than you imagine.  I’ve heard if you don’t tithe you are “stealing from God”. That is a violation or breaking the 8th commandment, “thou shall not steal” is it not?  Of course it is. But, as much as it sounds like I’m talking about tithing I’m not.  It’s the law itself that’s makes many of steal for God.  Get your Bibles and let’s talk about it!
Love In Christ,
David & Katherine

 

 

Let’s Talk: 2015 and Beyond

by admin David Kenebrew

2015 Dec 27th Streaming

https://youtu.be/dGj1YC7GblI

Let’s Talk: 2015 and Beyond

2015 has come and is at the door of leaving. We know the strongest principle in God is that life comes out of death! What is 2015 leaving us? What has our Father taught us concerning Himself and us during this year? What has been real to us? What has been life to us? What has we lived spontaneously? Has 2015 been just another year we have lived through? Have we just existed day after day in the same flesh and blood body feeling the same, thinking the same, and living the same? What has God said to us or revealed to us that caused us to see new? I’m not talking about business. You know stuff that keeps you distracted so you don’t have to or can’t see outside the flesh! Living in the illusion of the Spirit of fear. With all the Father has revealed and said about the process of desensitization in 2015, are we any closer to understanding the power of its grip? Has the person of Christ become the only life you are to live? Is there still a disconnect between Christ in you and the Son of God as you? Well, this time for learning our new union and identity as new creation race Sons is almost past away. There will never be another day as today. So, as the writer of Hebrews says “Today when you hear the voice of the Lord hardened not your heart.” Don’t wait for 2016! Receive and exchange today!   Let’s not exist another minute or hour or day in the outer man. God forbid another year struggling to find and live differently or better. We are new! We should live new in the person of Christ. WARNING: Satan and his process of desensitization is waring against you. But as Paul tells us “if God be for us who can be against us.” Let’s talk!