Category David Kenebrew

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes Part-2

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 10th Streaming

https://youtu.be/QeszBeO2pLA

Greetings Everyone,

It’s been a busy week for us.  I had a small surgical procedure yesterday. Thanks to our Father everything went very well.  Katherine and our son Ben were there for support.  The procedure started around 12:20 and we were home watching a movie at 2:30.  A little sleepy but home with the family. As this week progressed I had a lot of thoughts concerning the in Christ message, specifically the person of Christ and the desensitization to the person of Christ. There’s is so much that can be said on the revelation of this mystery that it’s truly unbelievable and unimaginable.  I’m amazed, but not surprised in the least, how many people, and that would include professing believers, who really don’t want to know or are not interested in the person of Christ!  I’m really coming to see just how deep desensitization (the rabbit hole) to the person of Christ goes.  I’m amazed at how fear’s, illusions, deceptions, captivity and delusional thinking has humanity/humankind in it’s treadmill, of an on-going cycle of existing, day in and day out.  As I’ve stated before the famous line from the movie “Total Recall”  “an illusion no matter how persuasive, is still an illusion”.  If you listen to man-made religion, steeped in desensitization to the person of Christ, it has no solid or lasting answers.  It is desensitization to the very person who should provide it with all that’s needed.  But He (the person of Christ) is not a religion, an organization,  an institution, a denomination or non-denomination, or system of theoretical points.  He (the person of Christ) is All in All.  He is before all things and by Him all things consist (hold together).  But fear’s illusions set before us the idea we can or need to put it together, hold it together, get it together and keep it together! We are immediately deceived! Yes, immediately deceived, while slowly and progressively being taken into captivity and thinking we are in control of our idea of what “together” means.  I’ve found in these past two years of sharing this message very few really want the person of Christ as their ALL.  You see in delusional thinking or psychotic thinking we cannot perceive or believe or receive anything outside of fear’s illusion as real.  Why? Because in desensitization to the person of Christ, NO ONE wants to become another person! NO ONE wants to say “I no longer live as the person I was born as in this body!” NO ONE wants to say “I am now occupying a body that gave me identity, but now I am another person with a new identity from a new Father.”  He didn’t make the old better or different or corrected or improved or changed (that’s what many proclaim; a changed life) or a good person or positive, not anything we think at all. Fear’s illusion keeps us deceived into thinking that’s exactly what God is doing to everyone who’s goes to church, or believes in or reads the Bible or believes in God or etc,etc,etc!   He chose humankind in Christ before the foundation of the world.  That means before anything was created or came into existence we were chosen to be in Christ.  Why? Simple, He chose or received us first in Himself so that we would have the right to receive Him in us to become another person – birthed by Him to be as He is in this world.  If that thought makes you fearful and afraid, then you are desensitized to the person of Christ! And you are definitely sensitized to your flesh ( the body you were born in). And we really don’t want the person of Christ, as God’s means of birthing us as Sons to Himself, and for a short time leaving us in these same old bodies.  And that’s where God’s Radical Events with irreversible outcomes comes in!  Speaking of that, I had no idea this message would last two weeks.  To some that might be too long.  After all we’re saying the same things again and again every week, and as we know that’s boring! After all I already know that stuff…But, what would it be like if those who are hungry for the person of Christ came every week or every other week or whenever the body meets simply because they knew they were coming together as the Body of this new person they now live.  What’s real to you is life to you, and what life to you, you live spontaneously!  There are no, blacks in Christ! No whites in Christ! No browns in Christ! No yellows in Christ! No Jews in Christ! No gentiles in Christ! No positive people in Christ! No negative people in Christ! No Baptist, No Catholics, No Methodist No Latter Day Saints, No denominations or Non-Denominations in Christ. Fear’s illusion of Desensitization to the person of Christ gives some the right to be called or to be made Son or Children of God based on their doctrines and belief system. Wow! But you know what’s worse? Fear makes many of us believe the illusion is real and true! But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Let’s talk about it!

 

Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 3rd Streaming

https://youtu.be/J92mJR9hf0c

Greetings Everyone!
Wow it’s April already! We are rapidly moving to the halfway point of 2016.  It just kind of slips by before you know it. The seconds, minutes, and hours turn into days, weeks and months.  We look up and the years have come and gone.  How much of that time have we missed?  How much of that time has been used to desensitize us to who we are as birthed Sons/Children of God? How much of that time has sensitized us to our former biological identity? You know, from your mother’s womb. The you which fear keeps trapped in an illusion that you are growing in Christ because you can say “Christ lives in me”.  Yet we rise up in the mornings, go through the whole day and lay down at night driven by the same fear or fears.  Day after day. Week after week. Month after month. Sadly, most of us know no other way to live other than existing this way and call it living Christ!  Thoughts of change when they are given only enhance the fear that keeps us captive and delusional!  The Father, purpose, intent, and plan (PIP) has provided first, an exchange, then a process of change.  What does that mean?  Well, first, He exchanged our death with His life by birth. That is Christ in us.  But it’s far more reaching than “just putting Christ in you!”  It’s a complete exchange of you! Not changing us, but exchanging us into a new person/creation.  We have become another person!  This is where change comes in.  This is not physical change, but spiritual.  This change is what the apostle Paul calls “being conformed into the image of the Son”.  This is where we learn to grow out of the bodies we live in – our first identity!  This is where the spirit of fear rules most of humankind.  Everyone wants to be different! Everyone wants to be better!  And some want to keep the same person they’ve always been. Why? Simple, it’s comfy. True change must first come from True exchange!  And the first to bring this about was the Father Himself!  He introduced the first exchange. He provided the first change of conformity.  So that when it came to us we would have “no excuse”.  He’d been there and done that. And yes, His as ours, are permanent and irreversible!  I can see where that idea makes us afraid, fearful and desensitized!  Why? We’ve been told and taught so much outside of the revelation of Christ and the mystery, that anything other than our belief system puts some of us in panic mode.  Co-minglers have tied the OT and NT together so it can make sense to them and unfortunately to us, attempting to tie the whole Bible together – as though there is nothing which stops. Nothing ends! There is no exchange. There is no change. Meaning there is no mystery and no revelation of that mystery.  And sadly many have said and are still saying the Bible is God’s final revelation.  Again, sadly,  many know very little or nothing about the Father’s “radical events” in His PIP before the world began.  Words such as omniscience, omnipotent, and omnipresent are only relevant to describe Him when it fits our doctrine and belief system!  So, what are the “radical events with irreversible outcomes” which He initiated in Himself so that we could become another person and new creation?  Let’s talk about it.
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

 

The blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ Part 2

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 27th Streaming

https://youtu.be/a0PlkIMOdDg

Happy Easter,

Here we are at Easter 2016! It seems like it Easter just a few months ago.  WOW! Time is moving faster than we know it.  We will conclude this message on “The Blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ”.  Is there power in the blood? Or is there power in the Spirit of Christ (the person of Christ)?  We have been taught, told and believe so many things about the blood of Jesus. We have also not been taught and told much about the Spirit of Christ (which is the person of Christ). The vast majority of our theology is rooted and grounded in religion. Good religion. Old time religion. Biblically correct religion.   And the most powerful, God fearing religion! No matter which one you’ve bought into each of them have two things in common (there are probably more but that’s not our discussion today). First, they are all tied together to an organizational theology, institutional doctrine, and denominational or non- denominational belief system (OID). So, the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ can and most of the time does mean something completely different in each OID.   Second, each is rooted in the desensitization to the person of Christ process. The spirit of fear has created the illusion of being right and the OID’s have sadly bought into it. With the illusion also come deception, captivity, and delusional thinking (the OID’s identity).  Let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

The blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 20th Streaming

https://youtu.be/3fv2WaYKV6Q

Greetings Everyone,

It’s been a busy week for us. What about you? We trust you are learning to become see-thru-ers. Seeing thru everything to your Father as Sons lacking nothing. The C&S gang will be there for our edification and maturing. We are in the process of being instructed and learning to be content no matter what state we come to be in. Through our decisions or others. We know are should it’s temporary. We know it’s for our maturing. We know our Father loves us and will supply all our need. But that’s according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. What we think, feel, and believe is “Good” for us it’s not sometimes according to His purpose, intent and plan for us. It’s hard for me to sense you really want your idea of best! So, each day is like going to school. Some days class are tough especially if you’re looking for something else. Please keep in mind these classes are the only place we learn to be content. This is where we are instructed. This is where we learn we can do all things. This is where we learn Christ is our only strength and that He doesn’t give us strength. These are the classes that we become conformed into the image of the Son. Which is the image of the Father. In class we are learning it’s not what others see when they see us. It’s who we see when we see ourselves in the mirror. At the end of the day we should know who we are as we are known by our Father! To know as we are known! That’s Sonship! That’s identity! That’s victory from above lived out now. No matter what state we’re in! Amen!We’ll be looking at a subject this week that’s inundated with desensitization to the person of Christ. We are going to talk about “The Blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ”We have been taught, told and believe so many things about the blood of Jesus. We have also not been taught and told much about the Spirit of Christ (which is the person of Christ). The vast majority of our theology is rooted and grounded in religion. Good religion. Old time religion. Biblically correct religion. And the most powerful, God fearing religion! No matter which one you’ve bought into each of them have two things in common (there are probably more but that’s not our discussion today). First, they are all tied together to an organizational theology, institutional doctrine, and denominational or non- denominational belief system (OID). So, the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ can and most of the time does mean something completely different in each OID. Second, each is rooted in the desensitization to the person of Christ process. The spirit of fear has created the illusion of being right and the OID’s have sadly bought into it. With the illusion also come deception, captivity, and delusional thinking (the OID’s identity).

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

 

Desensitization and the Fellowship of the Mystery

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 13th Streaming

https://youtu.be/ygxR5sGdEsA

Greetings Everyone,

We just got back tonight from spending days in New York city with DeAndre, Amy, Arianna, Layla and little Maddie.  It was a great blessing to spend time with them!  We trust each of you had a blessed time this week as well.  Last Sunday’s fellowship with brother Stephen was a joy for all of us here.  We had a wonderful time of fellowship with him the whole weekend!  He’ll be heading back to Ghana soon.  In the message this week we will be look at “the mystery” and “the fellowship of the mystery” Paul talks about and the fear and illusion Satan uses to disqualify it’s meaning and progenitor.  In the 27 times this word is used in the NT Paul has the most uses.  The definition is “It is knowledge which is outside the range of unassisted natural apprehension and can only be made known by divine revelation, and made known in a manner and at a time appointed by God, and only to those who are illuminated by His Spirit”. Satan and man made Religion fear this word because it means control. God the Father controls this word and it’s out working.  A lot of well meaning believers have brought into the illusion that God doesn’t have any more mysteries. But He does because it’s all about Himself.  And no one can explain Himself better than Himself!  But where is the person of Christ in all of this?  Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue? Part 2

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Feb 21st Streaming

https://youtu.be/EOZJoUqSAek

Greetings Everyone,
I trust each of you has had a blessed week learning to live Christ!  We will conclude our message form last week on “Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue.”  We will also take a look at the second question that was asked.  Although the question is about someone wanting to become a Christian and still follow their current form of worship. It that OK?  Desensitization would say some forms are good and other are not.  Is our form of worship matter?  Because of desensitization to the person of Christ there is a very common idea that conversion (be converted) is equal to or is salvation. Satan through religion has established a fear based illusion, deception, the resulting captivity and its delusional thinking that will live and die for!  The Father has an answer for both questions and issues!
But where is the person of Christ in all of this?  Let’s talk about it!
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue?

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Feb 21st Streaming

https://youtu.be/tb1NdavWM3s

Greetings Everyone!

It’s been a busy week for us. I hurt my back on Monday evening and was out for a few painful days. I went to the DC on Wednesday and things improved. I’ve been doing lots of rocking and crawling. We’ll be looking at and talking about Desensitization to the Person of Christ and the Sin issue. I received an email from a beloved member of the body and they wanted to know about a statement they heard concerning “there is no sin issue before God.” In the past 30 plus years preaching and teaching on the in-Christ message, I’ve heard this question more times than I can count. It is a valid question when the law has been our covering and what appears our safety net. The fear that the message of grace will at some point cause some to sin. So are we not to say Christ is more than enough to keep anyone? The liberty in Christ might cause them go out and sin if they know there is no sin issue. Here’s part of the questions we will talk about in fellowship today.

Hi pastor, we bless the Father for you. I am learning so much from the messages you brought. I have 2 questions I need your explanation on.

2 years back, (our Pastor) preached and made a statement like “your sin is not of concern to God if only you have Christ in you, your sin is not an issue to God but the resulting effect of what you do may hinder you from enjoying the victorious Christian life here on earth. eg a child of God living a promiscuous life does not make him less of a child of God but he might contract STDs, or waste his money etc with this he may not enjoy the beautiful life he ought to have (in Christ).”

After service I told him he should not be preaching like that or else he will encourage sin particularly among those who are not matured in Christ. He told me he preaches what the Holy Spirit leads him to not what human logic/thought feels. I felt unhappy because he rejected my advice. What he preached is the truth, but I felt it’s not to be preached to the congregation because the congregation is a mixture of saved and unsaved persons. Among the saved ones, there may be persons who won’t understand this in-depth truth and may misunderstand it to mean “I can continue in sin after all it has nothing to do with my salvation.’’

1. After listening to your message on desensitization to the person of Christ and converted verse begotten, it seems to me it’s okay preaching that way. My question is, is that not going to encourage sin among believers?

2. You said that Biological and spiritual union is permanent. You can’t lose who you are!! We have an older woman expressed the desire to have a new life in Christ Jesus but want to still be praying in the Islamic way. I guess there is nothing wrong if she accepts Christ and continue in her religion. After all it’s about the newness of one but not religion.

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Be My Valentine

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 FEb 14th Streaming

https://youtu.be/c6m66seqSNc

Greetings Everyone!

Happy Valentines Day! What a great time to talk about love and what love looks like. Although the Bible tells us what love look like we still come up short or even empty. As new creation believers we know love is a person. But do we understand that this means love is fixed and unchangeable? Do we not understand that love as a person is not based on how feel at any given time? Or any given circumstance and situation? Many look at Valentines Day as a foundation to secure or acknowledge one’s love for another. In many cases it expected and often demanded! Why? Is the lack of one’s value? Or is it to give someone value? Some might say it is to acknowledge one’s value. But before we talk about it let’s have a little history of Valentine Day. For those of you who enjoy history here we go!

The history of Valentine’s Day–and the story of its patron saint–is shrouded in mystery. We do know that February has long been celebrated as a month of romance, and that St. Valentine’s Day, as we know it today, contains vestiges of both Christian and ancient Roman tradition. But who was Saint Valentine, and how did he become associated with this ancient rite?

The Catholic Church recognizes at least three different saints named Valentine or Valentinus, all of whom were martyred. One legend contends that Valentine was a priest who served during the third century in Rome. When Emperor Claudius II decided that single men made better soldiers than those with wives and families, he outlawed marriage for young men. Valentine, realizing the injustice of the decree, defied Claudius and continued to perform marriages for young lovers in secret. When Valentine’s actions were discovered, Claudius ordered that he be put to death.

Other stories suggest that Valentine may have been killed for attempting to help Christians escape harsh Roman prisons, where they were often beaten and tortured. According to one legend, an imprisoned Valentine actually sent the first “valentine” greeting himself after he fell in love with a young girl–possibly his jailor’s daughter–who visited him during his confinement. Before his death, it is alleged that he wrote her a letter signed “From your Valentine,” an expression that is still in use today. Although the truth behind the Valentine legends is murky, the stories all emphasize his appeal as a sympathetic, heroic and–most importantly–romantic figure. By the Middle Ages, perhaps thanks to this reputation, Valentine would become one of the most popular saints in England and France.

While some believe that Valentine’s Day is celebrated in the middle of February to commemorate the anniversary of Valentine’s death or burial–which probably occurred around A.D. 270–others claim that the Christian church may have decided to place St. Valentine’s feast day in the middle of February in an effort to “Christianize” the pagan celebration of Lupercalia. Celebrated at the ides of February, or February 15, Lupercalia was a fertility festival dedicated to Faunus, the Roman god of agriculture, as well as to the Roman founders Romulus and Remus.

Lupercalia survived the initial rise of Christianity and but was outlawed—as it was deemed “un-Christian”–at the end of the 5th century, when Pope Gelasius declared February 14 St. Valentine’s Day. It was not until much later, however, that the day became definitively associated with love. During the Middle Ages, it was commonly believed in France and England that February 14 was the beginning of birds’ mating season, which added to the idea that the middle of Valentine’s Day should be a day for romance. 

Americans probably began exchanging hand-made valentines in the early 1700s. In the 1840s, Esther A. Howland began selling the first mass-produced valentines in America. Howland, known as the “Mother of the Valentine,” made elaborate creations with real lace, ribbons and colorful pictures known as “scrap.” Today, according to the Greeting Card Association, an estimated 1 billion Valentine’s Day cards are sent each year, making Valentine’s Day the second largest card-sending holiday of the year. (An estimated 2.6 billion cards are sent for Christmas.) Women purchase approximately 85 percent of all valentines.

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

Gideon-Faith and Fear

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 FEb 7th Streaming

https://youtu.be/ElBGM71VbC0

Greetings Everyone,
This is the per-recorded message I was going to share with you last week in Sunday Fellowship.  I had some technical difficulties and couldn’t upload it in time. So, here it is for your edification and renewing of the mind!  Enjoy!
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine