Archives 2016

Desensitization and Losing your Salvation

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 May 15th Streaming

https://youtu.be/tZnTwWvUwg8

Greetings  Everyone!
We trust everyone has had a wonderful week in Christ!  And hopefully not too busy.  We were traveling this week. We went to see our grandson Jeremy’s graduation at Loyola University in Chicago.  It was a joy and blessing to be there with family and friends to support this mile stone in his life.  Chicago is very nice city to visit but we enjoyed coming home to Texas!  Let me take a minute to talk about the topic of Sunday fellowship, desensitization and losing your salvation.  The question always comes up sooner or later concerning how does one get saved or receive salvation? And, of course what can someone do to lose their salvation?  What do you think?  I know some of you say no immediately. No way! While some of you might say, yes of course!  Others might say it would depend on what a person does. If they have commit the unpardonable sin?  Surely they can lose their salvation. Right?   Almost all of our ideas, beliefs and doctrines are based on what we’ve been taught and told to believe about receiving and losing our salvation.  This idea brings with it a host of deep feelings and emotions. And almost all of these are powerful and fear based!  No two organizations, institutions or denominations agree on obtaining salvation much less agreeing on how it’s kept or lost.  What role or impact does desensitization to the person of Christ, religion, organizational theology, institutional doctrine, and denominational belief systems have on this idea of losing your salvation? The answer is simple. Everything!  Why? Because there is something very critical being left out of the discussions.  But we’ll talk about it in fellowship tomorrow.  Let me close by giving you something to think about until then.  Can one lose their salvation? The answer is Yes. Because some have a salvation that can be lost. The answer is No. Because others have a salvation that cannot be lost. Let’s talk about it!
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

Desensitization to the person of Christ and Mothers Day

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 May 8th Streaming

https://youtu.be/B8n5D496sac

Greetings Everyone,
One last Happy Mothers Day before we finish this day. We had a wonderful and blessed time in fellowship today. The Father revealed much through His Son in Katherine and Kurtis during fellowship. We know some have had trouble with their internet service in various places. So, we are attaching a copy of today’s broadcast to this email. We trust as you get the opportunity you will take time to watch. Also our dear brother Jim Neargarder has taken the time to reformat over 250 audio messages for easy access with mobile devices. There are various speakers and teachers all sharing on the In-Christ message. Thanks brother Jim! Also a big thanks to our dear brother Tim Anderson for the idea and support! We want to thank all who have sent emails about the broadcasts and this message of our new identity and life in Christ! We have become a whole new person! We also want to thank you for your prayers, support and gifts of love. We pray and thank our Father you all!

Love in Christ!
David & Katherine

Desensitization to the person of Christ and Time

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 May 1st Streaming

https://youtu.be/h9lMpIw7vr0

Greetings Everyone!
April is out and May is in. Already! WOW, time flies when you’re having fun! It seems like it was just Monday and now it’s Sunday. Does it appear to you that things are happening faster than you can keep up? We are so busy that days come and go so quickly it’s hard to keep track of which day of the week it is. Someone created a phrase to help us to “deal” with this issue of “so much to do and very little time to do it”. It’s called “multi-tasking”. Yeah, you train yourself to several different tasks at the same time. You know what I mean. Like the person who just passed you on the road, driving, texting on a cell phone, listening to music, looking at the GPS, speeding and smoking a cigarette all at the same time! We are not created and cannot multi-task. I know some of you might say “yes we can, I do it all the time”. Human ability is pretty spectacular in various situations. But trying to beat or cheat time is not one of them! It may seem that time is not on our side. Time is neither for us or against us. Because of desensitization to the person of Christ many have missed God’s purpose, intent and plan for creating time. We have tried to make time something it’s not and never created to be or do. We say things like, time heals, time makes everything better, time will tell, they’ve got time on their side, their time is running out, that saves us a lot of time and now it’s my time. These are just a few of things said about time which comes from desensitization! And where is Christ in all of this? Let’s talk about it in fellowship…

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes Part-4

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 24th Streaming

https://youtu.be/KqaO2gOgnUE

Greetings Everyone,

We trust our Father that you all had a wonderful week! I’m sure many of you had busy a week wherever you’re located. I also trust you had an opportunity to review the message on “The Great Escape” that was sent out this week. I listen to it again and heard and saw things I didn’t previously. Very good Word! I looking to finish our topic on God’s radical events and their irreversible outcomes tomorrow. There’s a lot more to this subject than meets the eye. Maybe the Father will bring us back to this issue later. We don’t hear or know much concerning the gospel and message of before the foundation of the world. These events were spoken by Himself and to Himself for us! Yet they were not revealed until since creation. Much of which He reveal to the apostle Paul. If can receive just a few of these radical events as ours most of our fears and illusions would be swallowed up in us by Him!  

I was talking to the Father about the idea called “Desensitization and fear the new faith” I thought that was very interesting. He and I also discussed a word that many have misunderstood for a long time. The word is “Time.” This word is not what we think and said it is. How many times have you heard things like this; “only time can heal” or “only time will tell” or “over time things will work themselves out” or “forgiveness will come over time” or ” you’re running out of time” or “time is money” or “make up for lost time” and “just need to be faithful and in time you’ll reach your goal”. I could go on but I think you get the idea. There’s an illusion here that many have bought into concerning “time”. And ALL illusions come from fear! And you should know what that means…wait for it…yes desensitization! Well just in discussion. But I like what I’m starting to see. I trust you’ll join us tomorrow for Sunday Fellowship!  

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes Part-3

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 17th Streaming

https://youtu.be/UUn2eY5-hCk

Greetings Everyone!
This was get your taxes done week and weekend!  We were done last week and e-filed for the first time. Wow! That was sweet!  Thank you for your prayers for the post surgery.  I did OS Resets this week and they really felt great to my body (thanks  brother Tim).  We had several comments on the message and the email from last week.  I read the email several more times and was amazed at what the Father was saying!  My sister Beverly S. said “POWERFUL insight”. I emailed her back and asked the message or email?  She said it was “the email”.  I could not have agreed more.  Not that the broadcast message wasn’t good.  It too carried the very God ideas that prepared and made us ready to become new creations to Him – the radical events and irreversible outcome of Sons birthed from above!  While Katherine and I were discussing the Word from the email, she made a very insightful and interesting comment. We were talking about the following:
        “I’ve found in these past two years of sharing this message very few really want the person of Christ as their ALL.  You see, in delusional thinking or psychotic thinking we cannot perceive or believe or receive anything outside of fear’s illusion as real.  Why? Because in desensitization to the person of Christ, NO ONE wants to become another person! NO ONE wants to say “I no longer live as the person I was born as in this body!” NO ONE wants to say “I am now occupying a body that give me identity but now I am another person with a new identity from a new Father.” 
She said “I don’t think it’s the fear of becoming another person.  They don’t know how to be anyone else.” I was looking at the effect of fear and it’s grip of desensitization to the person of Christ. And she was seeing the grip of sensitization to the person in the flesh.  A very similar thought of Nicodemus.  “Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother’s womb, and be born?” How about something like this “Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be another person when he is still alive? can he disappear and reappear a second time into someone else’s identity, and be new or another person?  Wow! Very good revelation!  Let’s talk about it!
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes Part-2

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 10th Streaming

https://youtu.be/QeszBeO2pLA

Greetings Everyone,

It’s been a busy week for us.  I had a small surgical procedure yesterday. Thanks to our Father everything went very well.  Katherine and our son Ben were there for support.  The procedure started around 12:20 and we were home watching a movie at 2:30.  A little sleepy but home with the family. As this week progressed I had a lot of thoughts concerning the in Christ message, specifically the person of Christ and the desensitization to the person of Christ. There’s is so much that can be said on the revelation of this mystery that it’s truly unbelievable and unimaginable.  I’m amazed, but not surprised in the least, how many people, and that would include professing believers, who really don’t want to know or are not interested in the person of Christ!  I’m really coming to see just how deep desensitization (the rabbit hole) to the person of Christ goes.  I’m amazed at how fear’s, illusions, deceptions, captivity and delusional thinking has humanity/humankind in it’s treadmill, of an on-going cycle of existing, day in and day out.  As I’ve stated before the famous line from the movie “Total Recall”  “an illusion no matter how persuasive, is still an illusion”.  If you listen to man-made religion, steeped in desensitization to the person of Christ, it has no solid or lasting answers.  It is desensitization to the very person who should provide it with all that’s needed.  But He (the person of Christ) is not a religion, an organization,  an institution, a denomination or non-denomination, or system of theoretical points.  He (the person of Christ) is All in All.  He is before all things and by Him all things consist (hold together).  But fear’s illusions set before us the idea we can or need to put it together, hold it together, get it together and keep it together! We are immediately deceived! Yes, immediately deceived, while slowly and progressively being taken into captivity and thinking we are in control of our idea of what “together” means.  I’ve found in these past two years of sharing this message very few really want the person of Christ as their ALL.  You see in delusional thinking or psychotic thinking we cannot perceive or believe or receive anything outside of fear’s illusion as real.  Why? Because in desensitization to the person of Christ, NO ONE wants to become another person! NO ONE wants to say “I no longer live as the person I was born as in this body!” NO ONE wants to say “I am now occupying a body that gave me identity, but now I am another person with a new identity from a new Father.”  He didn’t make the old better or different or corrected or improved or changed (that’s what many proclaim; a changed life) or a good person or positive, not anything we think at all. Fear’s illusion keeps us deceived into thinking that’s exactly what God is doing to everyone who’s goes to church, or believes in or reads the Bible or believes in God or etc,etc,etc!   He chose humankind in Christ before the foundation of the world.  That means before anything was created or came into existence we were chosen to be in Christ.  Why? Simple, He chose or received us first in Himself so that we would have the right to receive Him in us to become another person – birthed by Him to be as He is in this world.  If that thought makes you fearful and afraid, then you are desensitized to the person of Christ! And you are definitely sensitized to your flesh ( the body you were born in). And we really don’t want the person of Christ, as God’s means of birthing us as Sons to Himself, and for a short time leaving us in these same old bodies.  And that’s where God’s Radical Events with irreversible outcomes comes in!  Speaking of that, I had no idea this message would last two weeks.  To some that might be too long.  After all we’re saying the same things again and again every week, and as we know that’s boring! After all I already know that stuff…But, what would it be like if those who are hungry for the person of Christ came every week or every other week or whenever the body meets simply because they knew they were coming together as the Body of this new person they now live.  What’s real to you is life to you, and what life to you, you live spontaneously!  There are no, blacks in Christ! No whites in Christ! No browns in Christ! No yellows in Christ! No Jews in Christ! No gentiles in Christ! No positive people in Christ! No negative people in Christ! No Baptist, No Catholics, No Methodist No Latter Day Saints, No denominations or Non-Denominations in Christ. Fear’s illusion of Desensitization to the person of Christ gives some the right to be called or to be made Son or Children of God based on their doctrines and belief system. Wow! But you know what’s worse? Fear makes many of us believe the illusion is real and true! But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Let’s talk about it!

 

Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

God’s Radical Events and their irreversible outcomes

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Apr 3rd Streaming

https://youtu.be/J92mJR9hf0c

Greetings Everyone!
Wow it’s April already! We are rapidly moving to the halfway point of 2016.  It just kind of slips by before you know it. The seconds, minutes, and hours turn into days, weeks and months.  We look up and the years have come and gone.  How much of that time have we missed?  How much of that time has been used to desensitize us to who we are as birthed Sons/Children of God? How much of that time has sensitized us to our former biological identity? You know, from your mother’s womb. The you which fear keeps trapped in an illusion that you are growing in Christ because you can say “Christ lives in me”.  Yet we rise up in the mornings, go through the whole day and lay down at night driven by the same fear or fears.  Day after day. Week after week. Month after month. Sadly, most of us know no other way to live other than existing this way and call it living Christ!  Thoughts of change when they are given only enhance the fear that keeps us captive and delusional!  The Father, purpose, intent, and plan (PIP) has provided first, an exchange, then a process of change.  What does that mean?  Well, first, He exchanged our death with His life by birth. That is Christ in us.  But it’s far more reaching than “just putting Christ in you!”  It’s a complete exchange of you! Not changing us, but exchanging us into a new person/creation.  We have become another person!  This is where change comes in.  This is not physical change, but spiritual.  This change is what the apostle Paul calls “being conformed into the image of the Son”.  This is where we learn to grow out of the bodies we live in – our first identity!  This is where the spirit of fear rules most of humankind.  Everyone wants to be different! Everyone wants to be better!  And some want to keep the same person they’ve always been. Why? Simple, it’s comfy. True change must first come from True exchange!  And the first to bring this about was the Father Himself!  He introduced the first exchange. He provided the first change of conformity.  So that when it came to us we would have “no excuse”.  He’d been there and done that. And yes, His as ours, are permanent and irreversible!  I can see where that idea makes us afraid, fearful and desensitized!  Why? We’ve been told and taught so much outside of the revelation of Christ and the mystery, that anything other than our belief system puts some of us in panic mode.  Co-minglers have tied the OT and NT together so it can make sense to them and unfortunately to us, attempting to tie the whole Bible together – as though there is nothing which stops. Nothing ends! There is no exchange. There is no change. Meaning there is no mystery and no revelation of that mystery.  And sadly many have said and are still saying the Bible is God’s final revelation.  Again, sadly,  many know very little or nothing about the Father’s “radical events” in His PIP before the world began.  Words such as omniscience, omnipotent, and omnipresent are only relevant to describe Him when it fits our doctrine and belief system!  So, what are the “radical events with irreversible outcomes” which He initiated in Himself so that we could become another person and new creation?  Let’s talk about it.
Love in Christ,
David & Katherine

 

 

The blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ Part 2

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 27th Streaming

https://youtu.be/a0PlkIMOdDg

Happy Easter,

Here we are at Easter 2016! It seems like it Easter just a few months ago.  WOW! Time is moving faster than we know it.  We will conclude this message on “The Blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ”.  Is there power in the blood? Or is there power in the Spirit of Christ (the person of Christ)?  We have been taught, told and believe so many things about the blood of Jesus. We have also not been taught and told much about the Spirit of Christ (which is the person of Christ). The vast majority of our theology is rooted and grounded in religion. Good religion. Old time religion. Biblically correct religion.   And the most powerful, God fearing religion! No matter which one you’ve bought into each of them have two things in common (there are probably more but that’s not our discussion today). First, they are all tied together to an organizational theology, institutional doctrine, and denominational or non- denominational belief system (OID). So, the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ can and most of the time does mean something completely different in each OID.   Second, each is rooted in the desensitization to the person of Christ process. The spirit of fear has created the illusion of being right and the OID’s have sadly bought into it. With the illusion also come deception, captivity, and delusional thinking (the OID’s identity).  Let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

The blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 20th Streaming

https://youtu.be/3fv2WaYKV6Q

Greetings Everyone,

It’s been a busy week for us. What about you? We trust you are learning to become see-thru-ers. Seeing thru everything to your Father as Sons lacking nothing. The C&S gang will be there for our edification and maturing. We are in the process of being instructed and learning to be content no matter what state we come to be in. Through our decisions or others. We know are should it’s temporary. We know it’s for our maturing. We know our Father loves us and will supply all our need. But that’s according to His riches in glory in Christ Jesus. What we think, feel, and believe is “Good” for us it’s not sometimes according to His purpose, intent and plan for us. It’s hard for me to sense you really want your idea of best! So, each day is like going to school. Some days class are tough especially if you’re looking for something else. Please keep in mind these classes are the only place we learn to be content. This is where we are instructed. This is where we learn we can do all things. This is where we learn Christ is our only strength and that He doesn’t give us strength. These are the classes that we become conformed into the image of the Son. Which is the image of the Father. In class we are learning it’s not what others see when they see us. It’s who we see when we see ourselves in the mirror. At the end of the day we should know who we are as we are known by our Father! To know as we are known! That’s Sonship! That’s identity! That’s victory from above lived out now. No matter what state we’re in! Amen!We’ll be looking at a subject this week that’s inundated with desensitization to the person of Christ. We are going to talk about “The Blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ”We have been taught, told and believe so many things about the blood of Jesus. We have also not been taught and told much about the Spirit of Christ (which is the person of Christ). The vast majority of our theology is rooted and grounded in religion. Good religion. Old time religion. Biblically correct religion. And the most powerful, God fearing religion! No matter which one you’ve bought into each of them have two things in common (there are probably more but that’s not our discussion today). First, they are all tied together to an organizational theology, institutional doctrine, and denominational or non- denominational belief system (OID). So, the blood of Jesus and the Spirit of Christ can and most of the time does mean something completely different in each OID. Second, each is rooted in the desensitization to the person of Christ process. The spirit of fear has created the illusion of being right and the OID’s have sadly bought into it. With the illusion also come deception, captivity, and delusional thinking (the OID’s identity).

But where is the person of Christ in all of this? Let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

 

 

Desensitization and the Fellowship of the Mystery

by admin David Kenebrew

2016 Mar 13th Streaming

https://youtu.be/ygxR5sGdEsA

Greetings Everyone,

We just got back tonight from spending days in New York city with DeAndre, Amy, Arianna, Layla and little Maddie.  It was a great blessing to spend time with them!  We trust each of you had a blessed time this week as well.  Last Sunday’s fellowship with brother Stephen was a joy for all of us here.  We had a wonderful time of fellowship with him the whole weekend!  He’ll be heading back to Ghana soon.  In the message this week we will be look at “the mystery” and “the fellowship of the mystery” Paul talks about and the fear and illusion Satan uses to disqualify it’s meaning and progenitor.  In the 27 times this word is used in the NT Paul has the most uses.  The definition is “It is knowledge which is outside the range of unassisted natural apprehension and can only be made known by divine revelation, and made known in a manner and at a time appointed by God, and only to those who are illuminated by His Spirit”. Satan and man made Religion fear this word because it means control. God the Father controls this word and it’s out working.  A lot of well meaning believers have brought into the illusion that God doesn’t have any more mysteries. But He does because it’s all about Himself.  And no one can explain Himself better than Himself!  But where is the person of Christ in all of this?  Now, let’s talk about it!

Love in Christ,

David & Katherine