Archives 2015

2015 Dec 27th Streaming

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Let’s Talk: 2015 and Beyond

2015 has come and is at the door of leaving. We know the strongest principle in God is that life comes out of death! What is 2015 leaving us? What has our Father taught us concerning Himself and us during this year? What has been real to us? What has been life to us? What has we lived spontaneously? Has 2015 been just another year we have lived through? Have we just existed day after day in the same flesh and blood body feeling the same, thinking the same, and living the same? What has God said to us or revealed to us that caused us to see new? I’m not talking about business. You know stuff that keeps you distracted so you don’t have to or can’t see outside the flesh! Living in the illusion of the Spirit of fear. With all the Father has revealed and said about the process of desensitization in 2015, are we any closer to understanding the power of its grip? Has the person of Christ become the only life you are to live? Is there still a disconnect between Christ in you and the Son of God as you? Well, this time for learning our new union and identity as new creation race Sons is almost past away. There will never be another day as today. So, as the writer of Hebrews says “Today when you hear the voice of the Lord hardened not your heart.” Don’t wait for 2016! Receive and exchange today!   Let’s not exist another minute or hour or day in the outer man. God forbid another year struggling to find and live differently or better. We are new! We should live new in the person of Christ. WARNING: Satan and his process of desensitization is waring against you. But as Paul tells us “if God be for us who can be against us.” Let’s talk!

2015 Dec 20th Streaming

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What are those verses that just don’t fit? What about those verses that don’t make sense?  We have several verses in the Bible as we read that somehow don’t line up with what we believe or have been told concerning the things of God.  So, let’s talk about em’

2015 Dec 13th Streaming

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Greetings Everyone,

Well, here we are another week closer to Christmas! These next couple of weeks are going to get hectic! They always do. Don’t they? But soon we’ll be in a transition period. The week between Christmas and New Year. You know where almost everything slows down as we wait for New Year’s Eve. That brings me to our message this week, the “Transition from flesh to Spirit” or law to grace.

Paul gives us a look at who we are in Christ vs what we do in flesh! The transition from living in the flesh to Spirit identity. From law to grace. There is a wonderful transition between Romans 7 & 8. In these two chapters there are five words that reveal this marvelous transition. As we read Romans 7 Paul makes it clear in all 25 versus the issue is the law and sin with the flesh, mind and the Spirit coming in a distant 3, 4 and 5. But as we read Romans 8 Paul makes it clear in all 39 versus the issue is the Spirit and flesh with the law, sin and the mind coming in a distant 3, 4 and 5. Let’s take a closer look at these two chapters.Let’s talk about it.
Love in Christ,

David & Katherine

2015 Dec 6th Streaming

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The Father has provided the revelation of the mystery in the desensitization to the person of Christ and not Jesus of Nazarath. For more than a year now He has faithfully revealed and taught us about the process of desensitization. We have come to know this process flows from the spirit of fear. The spirit of fear provides an illusion. The illusion once received provides the deception that the illusion is real and true to us. As we continue in the deception it leads us into captivity.   Captivity is where we become fully controlled by the illusion of the spirit of fear. While in captivity we truly think, feel, and believe we are independent and free. Yet we solely under the control of another-the powerful authority of fear! Once caught and held in captivity we become delusional thinkers. Our delusional thinking is our “rational” thinking. The truth that is in the person of Christ is unbelievable. Sadly we are convinced that what we are thinking, feeling and believing is all there is to see and know. And no one can convince us otherwise!

Most of the gospels we hear preached today flow out of the desensitization to the person of Christ. It has its foundation in fear and its illusion. Let me explain what I mean. A short time ago Katherine and I were riding in my truck and popular Christian song was playing on the radio. As I listen to the words I smiled and told Katherine “Do you hear the words to this song?” “Yes” she said. “What about them?” I said “it sounds like the gospel of Humpty Dumpty”. She said “Really? Why?”

For those who don’t know “Humpty Dumpty” is a nursery rhyme. Humpty Dumpty is depicted as an egg doing the one thing you don’t want an egg to do, fall. The rhyme goes like this.

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,

Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king’s horses and all the king’s men

Couldn’t put Humpty together again.

2015 Nov 29th Streaming

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As we discussed in last weeks fellowship:  

Let’s take a close look at how the Son of God became the Son of man with a body of flesh and blood. But it was only for a season! These are just a few of the verses in which God, the Holy Spirit will show us why Jesus was given a unique body of sin but never had a sinning body!

The Prophesy

Who we are was decided before the foundation of the world. The bodies we would live in now and when we get to the Father’s house were also a part of that decision. We didn’t get to have a decision with our first body, but we do have a say in the next one! This is a God idea and extends back before the world was. It all has to do with a seed. Whose seed? Who comes forth? A simple DNA test can provide an answer to the question. If DNA testing were available in Jesus’ day, what would it have revealed about Him? What would just one drop of His blood would unfolded about His true blood line? Let’s do a DNA test on Jesus and see just what body He lived in for those 33 years. The blood line comes from the seed, the source of our DNA. What exactly does that mean?

– Biology tells us that every human being has 23 pairs of chromosomes or 46 total. This is our biological, physiological, and psychological make up-our complete genetic profile or DNA. This defines our flesh & blood identity. The road map of who we are in the flesh!

– These 23 allow us to function and live out who we are as humans.

– There is one part of our cellular make up not in pairs; the male seed/sperm and female seed/ovum. This allows us to give or share our genetic history and identity.

– Each seed or ovum contains 23 chromosomes half of what is needed for human life.

– When they join in union we have 46 chromosomes or 23 pairs, new human life.

– This process of conception was preordained for us to be fruitful and multiply.

– God used this same process Himself.

The Promise “Furthermore I tell thee that the LORD will build thee an house. And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go [to be] with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom. He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever. I will be his father, and he shall be my son: and I will not take my mercy away from him, as I took [it] from [him] that was before thee:” 1Chron1:10-13

So, what does all this have to do with us? Let’s press toward the mark!

Love in Christ!

David & Katherine

2015 Nov 22th Streaming

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Greeting Everyone,

Happy Thanksgiving! Many of us will be celebrating Thanksgiving this week. This will be the beginning of the holiday season Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Year! Wow, this year has truly come and gone! 2015 has been a here today and gone tomorrow year. Our opportunity to learn to live Christ as the Sons of God for this year is coming to a rapid close. But with every remaining day our Father will continue to reveal who He is as our Father and who we are in Christ as His Sons! The last several weeks we have talked about our identity in Christ spiritually and not our identity in the outer man. As I meditated on this I was reminded of Jesus and the body Mary gave Him. You know the Son of God living in a body of sin but not having a sinning body. This is how He became the Son of Man! Let’s take a real close look at this simple and powerful truth to see where you and I fit into this mystery. We trust God, the Holy Spirit, our teacher will give to each of you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him. That the eyes of your understanding maybe being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling which has purposed in Himself. The purpose which we now possess if Christ is in us. Our new identity is not flesh and blood. But we still live in this flesh and blood body of sin. Yet it does not have to be a sinning body. That is the difference with us being the Son of God or the son of man.  

Paul tells us in Phl 2:6-8-

“Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.”   

While the writer of Hebrews said 

“Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil.” Heb 2:14. So, let’s see what the Spirit is saying to us as Sons of a Father who has spared no cost! Those who have ears to hear let them hear what the Spirit is saying!  

Love in Christ! 

David & Katherine

2015 Nov 15th Streaming

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Greeting Beloved!

We have a great need for divine revelation in the body of Christ today.  As a matter of fact everyone living in the world today needs a divine revelation of Christ to get free of fear!  We are going to talk about this matter today.

Desensitization to the person of Christ is rampant throughout humankind! As we have shared with you before its effect is similar to carbon monoxide gas. You cannot see it, feel it, smell it, taste it or touch it. We involuntarily respond to its presence. Without the use of a carbon monoxide detector we would be overcome with its lethal effects and die. Spiritually God has provided us a detector for the process of desensitization to the person of Christ. Our detector for this enemy is divine revelation by God, the Holy Spirit. He is our teacher, revealer of all things that pertain to the person of Christ. What is revelation? And where does it come from?

Revelation is simply revealed knowledge. If there is something you and I do not know, or do not understand, we lack revelation. The Greek definition means;

1. laying bare, making naked
2. a disclosure of truth, instruction
   1. concerning things before unknown
   2. used of events by which things or states or persons hitherto withdrawn from view are made visible to all
3. manifestation, appearance

The word revelation is used 18 times in the Bible.  Thirteen of those time were used in Paul’s epistles.  Let’s look at a few of these verses.

It is not expedient for me doubtless to glory. I will come to visions and revelations of the Lord. 2Co 12:1

Now to him that is of power to establish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began, Rom 16:25

For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught [it], but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. Gal 1:12

And I went up by revelation, and communicated unto them that gospel which I preach among the Gentiles, but privately to them which were of reputation, lest by any means I should run, or had run, in vain. Gal 2:2

That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: Eph 1:17 KJV] 17

How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, Eph 3:3

Well let’s talk about it…..

Love in Christ

David & Katherine

2015 Nov 8th Streaming

https://youtu.be/BOPg3uBJRV0

Greetings Everyone,

Wow, this year has come and is almost gone! Thanksgiving is only 18 days away. And then the craziness really picks up speed. We trust all is well with each of you! We pray for our Father to lead and reveal the fullness of purpose, intent and plan for all of us in the coming and final days of 2015. That we will all live and walk in victory of Sonship! As you can see our message today is on the victory in losing you. 

All of humankind has been D.U.I.! No not driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. But desensitized under the illusion of fear. The vast majority of us at one time or another are sensitized to who we are in biological birth. For many this is the sum total of all they are and sadly all they will ever be! And even when one has seen the need to receive Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior (which is the most common confession) or profess being born-again, far, far too many of these still cling strongly to the identity of biological birth as their life while the person of Christ is added to that identity. Being desensitized to the person of Christ under the illusion of fear, many cannot and will not receive they are no longer the person they were. The process of desensitization denies believers the victory of losing themselves (you) by the illusion. They simply never become (to themselves) new. They never come to see themselves as another person. They never desire to know who they are outside of biological identity. This illusion, deception, captivity and delusional mind set keeps them trying to save the old man or improving his ways or make better or different. Or something far worse, they want to take him (the old man) to heaven as themselves! Wow! One day while Jesus was speaking in one place to his disciples and in another place to the Pharisees and the disciples he said this;

“Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.” Mat 16:24-25

  Let’s talk about! Seeya in fellowship.

Love in Christ!

David & Katherine

2015 Nov 1st Streaming

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2015 Oct 25th Streaming

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Greetings Everyone!

PTL! We trust our Father that the audio issues have been resolved.   Thanks to each of you who sent emails and prayed for us and the issue! It is a victory for all!  The message will be on the “The Man in the mirror.”  We have updated the notes since last week.  So, last weeks notes will match the message for this week.

WOW! What a gospel and song we have just heard.  Let’s take a quick look at some of the words to the song. Not all words but a just a few of them.

I’m going to make a change
For once in my life
It’s gonna feel real good
Gonna make a difference, gonna make it right

As I turned up the collar on my favorite winter coat
This wind is blowin’ my mind
I see the kids in the street with not enough to eat
Who am I to be blind, pretending not to see their need?

A summer’s disregard, a broken bottle top
And one man’s soul
They follow each other on the wind ya know?
‘Cause they got nowhere to go, that’s why I want you to know

I’m starting with the man in the mirror
I’m asking him to change his ways
And no message could have been any clearer
If you wanna make the world a better place
Take a look at yourself and then make a change

I’ve been a victim of a selfish kinda love
It’s time that I realize
There are some with no home, not a nickel to loan
Could it be, really mean, pretending that they’re not alone?

These or similar words are preached and taught almost every Sunday in many Churches.  They are very good words. They are very powerful words.  The words many would call the gospel.  It’s a gospel of changing yourself and helping others. Talking to yourself or your other self and deciding on behavior modification. All we need to do is see what’s going on around us and open ours hearts to fix or change these things. By doing this we’ll make the world a better place. A better place is truly wonderful and truly subjective.  Depending on where you live in the world your idea of better is what’s better for you and maybe a few others. Change is constant in this present world.  Change will happen! Some changes will be deemed good and other changes will be deemed not so good. Even bad! But how will these changes affect us? Will they change who we are in our humanity?   When we look in the mirror who do we see looking back at us? Who’s speaking? Are we speaking to the real us? Or is that person in the mirror speaking to us? And which image is truly us? Is it the Natural Man or Carnal Man? Is it the Outward Man or Inward Man?  Is it the Old Man or New Man?    Is it the image the Spiritual Man or the Corruptible Man?  Perhaps it’s Wretched Man and not the Perfect Man?   Well that beloved would depend on your world view!

There are many different world views and gospels that exist today which can probably be condensed into three specific or dominant views. Each of these views provide its own culture, people groups, racism, justification, status, personal and social significance, faith, and gospel. Ultimately it produces the reflection of who we are in the mirror- the very image of the man or woman we see ourselves to be!  Because of desensitization to the person of Christ, our identity is held by the affinity of the flesh with two of the three views. These two views are at odds with each other over whose view is right.  The body we were born in consumes our thinking and personal identity.  Desensitization with its illusion, deception, captivity and delusional thinking has blinded and veiled the eyes of both. One of these two views is from “below” and earthly. The second view advocates giving life from “above” and heavenly, while its foundation is actually death to both. It boasts having the view that a man needs to reflect in the mirror but all the while denying the power. This brings us to the “other” world view which is not associated with the previous two conflicting views. Let us take a look at these world views and their “man in the mirror” in detail.  Seeya in fellowship!

Love in Christ!